The chatlog

[smashbro]

Hey, Q, I know you want our plans to be posted in the forums, and before Weldar and I were just going to communicate through Steam before you made the forum. Anyway, Steam is so much easier for communicating, especially with a crisis like this, but to keep everything posted in the forums, we'll post any and all chatlogs in this thread for your viewing pleasure.




Never tell your password to anyone.
Thursday, June 03, 2010
12:46 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: we might have a problem
12:47 AM - Weldar: What's happened?
12:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Raya's post
12:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: have you seen it?
12:47 AM - Weldar: Well fuck
12:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: in regards to it, I immediatly logged off the forums to make it seem like I went to bed
12:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and i posted some plans in our forum
12:49 AM - Weldar: Damn this is bad
12:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: she needs to be silenced
12:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: she has an army I bet
12:49 AM - Weldar: I dunno, without pms it would be hard
12:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: recruiting
12:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: she can PM who she recruits
12:50 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so she probably only has like 2 or 3 people
12:50 AM - Weldar: Minby was the mason
12:50 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: oh
12:50 AM - Weldar: Some of this is wierd though
12:51 AM - Weldar: I didn't cover up the kill on Warchamp, that was someone else
12:51 AM - Weldar: I did make the kill though
12:51 AM - Weldar: Stupid unintended side effects
12:52 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: damn
12:52 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: why'd you of them have to make the kill?
12:53 AM - Weldar: At the time we were under the misconcpetion you couldn't act and kill
12:53 AM - Weldar: I was the only guy without a night action
12:53 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: oh
12:53 AM - Weldar: That's not the case though
12:53 AM - Weldar: We also figured nightkill immuntiy would be niceon the killer so the serial killer can't stop him
12:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ah
12:58 AM - Weldar: But yeah if I die either try to sang yourself a mafian or go for Raya
12:58 AM - Weldar: She'll probably be quickly killed by the mafia but if you're lucky she'll survive at lest another day and can publicly clear you somehow
12:59 AM - Weldar: Then try to grab a mfain
12:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: That would be good...
12:59 AM - Weldar: The problem is her suriving the night
12:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ooo, yeah
1:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: take a bet on either going for her or straight for a mafian
1:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: you could tell your friends to hold off on killing her for a day
1:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but if she's killed in the night...
1:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: wait, i can manipulate at any time
1:01 AM - Weldar: But she can't post at night
1:01 AM - Weldar: It's no good for you to grab her only for her to die once day dawns
1:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: right, so I would just wait for the next day to decide
1:02 AM - Weldar: Convincing the mafia not to kill Raya would be sort of hard though
1:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I kidna fogot that I could manipulate at any time, unlike the other night only roles
1:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: true
1:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but she may be protected
1:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: should there be a doctor
1:03 AM - Weldar: Yeah.....
1:03 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: it's all a gamble
1:03 AM - Weldar: Hmm I think I see a point for defense here
1:03 AM - Weldar: Warchmap claims he was vanilla, I say bullshit
1:03 AM - Weldar: Quaetam had 27 role ideas
1:04 AM - Weldar: He was reluctant to cut any, I really doubt there's any vanillas here
1:04 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: the only one that wouold have gotten a vanilla role, if any, would have been yuke5
1:04 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and even then, i would bet that he didn't
1:05 AM - Weldar: Might be the best way to dewfend myself here
1:05 AM - Weldar: Don't discredit Raya, discredit her sources
1:05 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: >Surge's tactics
1:07 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Still, I think that as of now, unless things swing our way and Raya gets put on the chopping block, our best option wouild be the lover link
1:07 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: then you would just have to convince your friends that I'm still of value
1:08 AM - Weldar: Well I've tolf them you're just a survivor
1:08 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: k good
1:09 AM - Weldar: You can link someone to make them go down with you to give you an ally of sorts so they have an incentive to help you survive
1:09 AM - Weldar: My only concern is if they try to kill you to take down 2 townies at once if you link with another townie
1:09 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: that excuse probably wouldn't fly well with someone like Raya
1:09 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and yeah....
1:10 AM - Weldar: Personally it seems like a realistic power to me
1:11 AM - Weldar: I've been a survivor who can convert people every night before though so maybe I just think differently
1:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: we can always say that Q had 27 roles...
1:11 AM - Weldar: I'll put that part trying to discerdit warchamp
1:12 AM - Weldar: I'll also claim I'm Raya and point out Minby was killed by a mod
1:12 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: mkay
1:12 AM - Weldar: Still the fact is I'll probably die
1:13 AM - Weldar: I'd probably follow raya myself in this situation
1:13 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: as in...
1:13 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: (and yeah, if not today, then soon)
1:14 AM - Weldar: Ah well
1:14 AM - Weldar: There's more I'd say now that I'm not allowed to
1:14 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: k\
1:14 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: anyway
1:14 AM - Weldar: My death should be interesting though
1:14 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Q kidna said taht he wanted us to post in the forum
1:14 AM - Weldar: Expect surprises
1:15 AM - Weldar: True
1:15 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so what I'm thinking is making a forum for a chatlog like this
1:15 AM - Weldar: I was about to suggest the same thing myself
1:15 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause he wants to read this stuff, but this is easier to communicate
1:15 AM - Weldar: Yeah it really is
1:16 AM - Weldar: It's like that with such a small group
1:16 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yeah
1:18 AM - Weldar: Now another thing to think of, should I false claim some powers?
1:18 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: like what?
1:18 AM - Weldar: I dunno
1:18 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: btw, how's this sound for the first part of the OP?: Hey, Q, I know you want our plans to be posted in the forums, and before Weldar and I were just going to communicate through Steam before you made the forum. Anyway, Steam is so much easier for communicating, especially with a crisis like this, but to keep everything posted in the forums, we'll post chatlogs in this thread.
1:19 AM - Weldar: Sounds good
1:21 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I think I'll end the chatlog at "k\"
1:21 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause after that is about this thing
1:21 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: up until you claiming powers
1:21 AM - Weldar: Fair enough
1:22 AM - Weldar: Though I realize I misremevberd something up there, Minby wasn't killed by a mod that was Surge
1:22 AM - Weldar: Fuck
1:22 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: dammit
1:24 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: second though, maybe I'll post everything
1:24 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: just eidt the post
1:24 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and I'm gonna head off in a min
1:25 AM - Weldar: Alrighty then
1:25 AM - Weldar: I'll think over what to do for a bit and yeah, I dunno
1:25 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: same

[Weldar]

Oops I'm an idiot. I closed the chat window and then realized I never copied the last part of the conversation. There wasn't really a whole lot there. Basically I just came up with the idea of having smashbro manipulate Raya after I die and then getting her to talk to me and giving a full unrestricted infodump and answering any questions that may have been raised. Of course it raised the issue of if I am unrestricted in what I say to any sort of mediums after I die. I said I'd have to ask Quaetam.

[Quaetam]

Thanks . It's gonna be fun seeing you fight back at this.

[smashbro]

Never tell your password to anyone.
Friday, June 04, 2010
1:33 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so... you're not mafia
1:33 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so wtf do I do now?
1:33 AM - Weldar: I'm not a m afian but I'm still in the mafia
1:33 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I got that
1:33 AM - Weldar: But yeah I'll flip as 3rd party on death
1:33 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: hmm
1:34 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I guess if it comes to that you do die, tables can still be turned on Raya
1:34 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause she's certain you're mafia
1:34 AM - Weldar: Problem is like I said the real mafia are gonna be confused about this
1:35 AM - Weldar: And they might think it has something to do with you since they know we're linked
1:35 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I thought about that
1:35 AM - Weldar: Yeah I didn't exactly set everything up in a way where it would be fantastic once I died
1:36 AM - Weldar: Becuase originally for me death was game over
1:36 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so me manipulating you actually gave you a better chance at winning
1:36 AM - Weldar: In some ways but not others
1:36 AM - Weldar: I no longer had to kill everyone
1:36 AM - Weldar: But I was tied to the more vulnerable you
1:37 AM - Weldar: I scan as innoncet and have nightkill immunity to a certain extent, you don't
1:37 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: bleh
1:37 AM - Weldar: But yeah overall it didn't change things too much for me
1:37 AM - Weldar: Which makes your lucky shot even more amazing
1:38 AM - Weldar: And then there's the secrect I can't tell you which makes it even better
1:38 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Ffff
1:38 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: you can resurrect someone
1:38 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!:
1:38 AM - Weldar: I wish
1:38 AM - Weldar: It's only knowledge not a power
1:38 AM - Weldar: Though knowledge is power I guess
1:38 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: the more you konw :B
1:39 AM - Weldar: But yeah only Quaetam and I know it
1:39 AM - Weldar: But who knows, you could figure it out eventually
1:40 AM - Weldar: Anyway I probably shouldn't talk too much about it I don't want to accidentally slip some hints or something
1:40 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yeah
1:40 AM - Weldar: Still I'm surprised by how much people are distrusting Raya
1:40 AM - Weldar: I may survive another day
1:40 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: maybe
1:40 AM - Weldar: But that would just mean I'm fucked tomorrow
1:41 AM - Weldar: Unless Raya is a 3rd party too
1:41 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and I would have to somehow fly under the radar
1:41 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: that's true
1:41 AM - Weldar: Raya seems to be good at killing 3rd parties here actually
1:42 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ...
1:43 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: maybe when i post I should say I am a survivor that latches onto someone for help and I can PM them (yeah, this plan again), but then I can say that you are not mafia
1:43 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause then i'd be telling the truth
1:43 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and just maybe taht the mafia would buy that when i latch onto someone, I hide their alignment
1:43 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: if you told them that
1:44 AM - Weldar: That might be a good idea
1:44 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: this way there's still some room for error
1:45 AM - Weldar: They could still be suspcious but on the other hand me flipping as 3rd party out of the blue would probably be worse
1:45 AM - Weldar: And they might be more inclined to support me if they know I won;t flip mafia
1:46 AM - Weldar: It'll look a little less suspicous on them
1:47 AM - Weldar: Yeah I think i'll go post that in the mafia forum now
1:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I'm a bit confused...
1:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: oh
1:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: you meant the mafia
1:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: as the ones supporting you
1:47 AM - Weldar: Yeah should have said sideforum there
1:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I actually found the foruim before the game started :B
1:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Q knows this
1:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but it's blocked to nonmembers so I don't know anything
1:48 AM - Weldar: Nice work
1:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: mafia6 >.>
1:49 AM - Weldar: quaetammb isn't much better
1:50 AM - Weldar: At least mafia 6 could be a different forum's mafia
1:51 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: do you know what mb is though?
1:52 AM - Weldar: inittials?
1:52 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: that's what I thought
1:52 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but no
1:52 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Manipluative Bastard
1:53 AM - Weldar: ah
2:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I'm gonna go to bed. Post in the forum about how your claim is being taken
2:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: like if they trust you or not and all that
2:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and I'll post in the mafia thread tomorrow
2:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but I think we may be able to swing the way of lynching Raya
2:01 AM - Weldar: Hopefully
2:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and if we do end up getting Raya taken out I may not have to role reveal
2:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I'll gauge it later though.

[Quaetam]

I made it quaetammb because quite frankly no one knows your role exists, smashbro. The chances that they'd find this are slim. Also it was late at night and I had very low imaginativeness

Also, Raya leads the lynch 4-2-1

[smashbro]

An hour of talk...

Never tell your password to anyone.
Monday, June 07, 2010
12:20 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: does avalanche really know who the serial killer is?
12:20 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause if he does you guys should probably kill the SK
12:21 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I'm just sayin
12:21 AM - Weldar: No we don't
12:22 AM - Weldar: Well he may have his suspects but he hasn't metioned them
12:23 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I need to pick out another possible mafian for backup in case Avalanch eats it
12:23 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause I picked up Snake's hint
12:23 AM - Weldar: Yeah sucks that your two best choices may go down so fast
12:24 AM - Weldar: Snake probably would have been your best puppet but he's also the one I'm most happy to be rid of
12:24 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: why is that?
12:24 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause he dropped hints?
12:25 AM - Weldar: Nah
12:25 AM - Weldar: But with him gone it's easier to control the mafia if I have to
12:25 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: true
12:25 AM - Weldar: I'm the godfather but I don't actually have any real authority
12:26 AM - Weldar: Oh yeah Quaetam I know I wasn't supposed to talk about dead mafias who had thier affiliations hidden but I think smashbro had figured this one out. Snake dropped the hints himself
12:27 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yeah, it was kinda obvious when I actaully took notice
12:27 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and way to break the 4th wall
12:28 AM - Weldar: Wow breaking the forth wall in a normal conversation
12:28 AM - Weldar: I think that's a first for me
12:28 AM - Weldar: But yeah in case you were curious Snake had the Weldar role
12:28 AM - Weldar: He was a framer
12:29 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: interesting
12:31 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: chocie wise, for backup, i think I'm down to JGH27, Fedaykin, and DRTJR
12:31 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and I'm making a thread for this just cause
12:31 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: or at least so I can better organize my reasoning
12:31 AM - Weldar: Obviously I can't really say much in reply
12:31 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I know
12:31 AM - Weldar: But I will say that's a decent set of choices
12:32 AM - Weldar: According to Quaetam I can suggest choices as long as doing so won't make it clear they're mafia, which is practically impossible now
12:32 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: pretty much
12:34 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Snake would have been fun to manipulate
12:35 AM - Weldar: Yeah
12:35 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but yeah this whole thing about Avalanche suddenly coming out and saying "I'm ashamed that you guys (or himself) never noticed he was mafia from day 2.
12:35 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: bull crap
12:35 AM - Weldar: Yeah I know
12:36 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: If I wasn't practically a mafian myself I'd totally call him out
12:36 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: actually, I probably should
12:36 AM - Weldar: I might as well
12:37 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: then a vigilante wont kill me
12:37 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but there's the SK
12:37 AM - Weldar: Don't worry too much about that smash
12:37 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ...
12:37 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ok
12:38 AM - Weldar: ....It's not like anything can be done about it
12:39 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I see
12:39 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I should probably work on that thread
12:40 AM - Weldar: Speaking of which I'll answer what you asked in the main thread here
12:40 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: k
12:40 AM - Weldar: The townies are in very bad shape right now
12:41 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so entropy is kicking in?
12:41 AM - Weldar: Espcially if there's more 3rd parties (like another zombie) out there
12:41 AM - Weldar: The mafia thought they were on the verge of winning soon
12:41 AM - Weldar: But those expectations have been pished back a little
12:42 AM - Weldar: And they were always further from thier goal than they though\
12:42 AM - Weldar: They can't win while I'm still alive
12:42 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Oh what a tangled web we weave
12:42 AM - Weldar: Heheh, more than you even know smashbro :B
12:43 AM - Weldar: But yeah I've also been trying to keep the balance equal here
12:43 AM - Weldar: Early game I've been trying to push the townies to the brink of defeat
12:44 AM - Weldar: And now I've got to maintain a balance with the mafia slightly in the lead
12:44 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: as it should be
12:44 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause the mafia are easier to control
12:44 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: from our standpoint
12:44 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: btw, nominating the Manipulative Bastard and you role (whatever it is) as the best roles ever
12:45 AM - Weldar: My role's called the Chessmaster
12:45 AM - Weldar: And yeah they are awesome
12:45 AM - Weldar: Espcially when they team up :B
12:46 AM - Weldar: I find it funny how well a chess theme is fitting my role
12:46 AM - Weldar: You may have noticed my new title on the sidefourm is the black queen, it fits Raya as a godfather all on it's own
12:47 AM - Weldar: But it also fits my current situation, I'm the Queen you're the King
12:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: tee hee
12:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: It'll just be my luck though to me being decieved til the end cause
12:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: as if your role overrides mine of whomever I manipulate being loyal to me
12:49 AM - Weldar: Heh, I wish
12:50 AM - Weldar: I even asked Quaetam if I was supposed to pull an epic backstab
12:50 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and I'm hoping he would say no
12:50 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: otherwise that's like the biggest F U I could ever get in a game of mafia
12:51 AM - Weldar: Don't worry, the only people who have to worry about backstabbing are the mafia
12:51 AM - Weldar: We're a legit team and I really do hope we win it
12:51 AM - Weldar: It would be so epic to pull off
12:52 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: indeed
12:54 AM - Weldar: I'm glad I got a partner like you to try and pull this off with :B
12:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: all because to voted for me in the beginning
12:55 AM - Weldar: Hehehe
12:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I had some people to choose from, but that decided it
12:55 AM - Weldar: Lucky too, I was considering you as a random night 1 kill
12:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: :B
12:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: that's sweet
12:56 AM - Weldar: I feel bad about doing stuff like that but the fact is you gotta do it
12:56 AM - Weldar: As much as I hate it killing the smart active players is almost always a good startegy for the mafia
12:56 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yep
12:59 AM - Weldar: So if it hadn't been for my silly day 1 grudge vote you may be dead
12:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: maybe
12:59 AM - Weldar: So I told you it's good to lay some random votes around day 1
1:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: my choices were either you, Surge, Raya or Snake.
1:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Surge in the beginning still had his finals or papers, so he was kinda inactive
1:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Snake would have been fun, but i figured he would have been killed off early had he not been mafia
1:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Raya.... for old times
1:01 AM - Weldar: Raya would have been interesting with her being a zombie
1:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yeah
1:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: she has also been a bit more active this game than game 3
1:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but she doesn't have Steam
1:02 AM - Weldar: Yeah steam is awesome for that
1:03 AM - Weldar: In your game I was worried to add Q on steam since I though people might notice it and find it stragne
1:03 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ah
1:03 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: makes sense
1:04 AM - Weldar: But yeah I think you made the best choice for a puppet :B
1:05 AM - Weldar: Snake woudln't have been bad too, it would have gotten you an extra puppet on day 2
1:05 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: deciever
1:05 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: was that person Ansem?
1:06 AM - Weldar: Nope
1:06 AM - Weldar: I think that person will flip as a mafian
1:06 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ah
1:07 AM - Weldar: At least I think so, thier alignmet changed to that of the person they chose
1:07 AM - Weldar: And if that person's alignement ever chnaged so would thiers
1:07 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ah
1:08 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: goddamn JGH27 barely posted in teh mafia thread
1:09 AM - Weldar: Yeah he's been pretty lurky
1:09 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: mafia lemming I'm a thinking
1:09 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and I'm gonna look into hudsonboy
1:09 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I kinda figured that newbies wouldn't get an important role, like yuke5
1:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but maybe he's a bit different
1:10 AM - Weldar: I'm pretty sure Q just RNGed it all
1:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: dunno about yuke5
1:10 AM - Weldar: Yeah I wouldn't blame him for giving him a fairly unimportant role
1:13 AM - Weldar: OH man awesomely appropriate quote from tvtropes here
1:13 AM - Weldar: "Chessmasters also tend to be overconfident and usually panic when their "perfect" plans fail. The exception to this is when Magnificent Bastard and Chessmaster overlap, since a Magnificent Bastard is quite good at rebounding from defeat. "
1:14 AM - Weldar: You're Manipulative not Magnificent but still
1:14 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: .......WTF *BOOOOM*
1:14 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: did Q get the idea from this?
1:15 AM - Weldar: I don't think so...
1:15 AM - Weldar: I mean the fact our roles ended up working together was just luck
1:15 AM - Weldar: But that fits it so well it's spooky
1:17 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so we've been talking for almost an hour
1:17 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: now what?
1:18 AM - Weldar: Man I should use those time stamp things
1:18 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: they're helpful
1:18 AM - Weldar: Eh I dunno, do you have anything more to say?
1:18 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: hmm
1:18 AM - Weldar: Or you want to ask?
1:19 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: not that I can think of as of now
1:19 AM - Weldar: Me neither
1:20 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I think we're looking pretty good now as far as the game goes
1:20 AM - Weldar: Yep, could be better but things certainly aren't terrible
1:20 AM - Weldar: I'm lucky as hell Raya was a zombie
1:20 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: seems they forgot about Raya calling you out
1:20 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yep

[Weldar]

I'll tack the rest of that conversation on the end end here, the styart at least is relevant.

out Raya calling you out
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yep
Weldar: Hopefully people forget about you being called out as well
Weldar: Though if TJ stays alive he could be a worry with his scanning
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: kill him then
Weldar: I'm guessing you won't scan as innocent
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I dont know what I'll scan as
Weldar: I'll try, hope the doc is dead
Weldar: I'd imagine nothing
Weldar: But a no result is almost as bad as mafia
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Role: Manipulative Bastard
Alignment: Manipulative Bastard
Forumer: Minby_Aran
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so I'm probably screwed
Weldar: It might just say he was niehter innocent nor mafia or something
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: in my game when Weldar scanned raya, I said something ambiguous
Weldar: I scanned Raya now
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: like there wasn't clear information to conclude blah blah
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I meant when Mentok scanned Raya
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: goddamn, he was the cop then
Weldar: Those Aussies, they're all the same anyway
Weldar: Yeah I haven't been a townie since game 1, I sort of miss it
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I haven't been mafia
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: this is the closest I've been
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and first time not being townie
Weldar: You've gotten to be the funnest alignmet of all though
Weldar: Host
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: heh
Weldar: It's fun knowing everyone's secrets, you just know Q is probably laughing his ass of at some of the stuff that's happened
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I don't really remebmer laughin that much when i was mod
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: tbh
Weldar: I did
Weldar: That might have had to do with the cop scanning the gosfather day I though :B
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yeah...
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I have the weirdest luck
Weldar: What really makes it asmazing was that Surge was your first pick
Weldar: That kill on Surge was one of the best moves the mafia made all game
Weldar: And he was a vanilla (sorta)
{PM} Don't smash me, bro!: mf

[Quaetam]

Chessmasters also tend to be overconfident and usually panic when their "perfect" plans fail. The exception to this is when Magnificent Bastard and Chessmaster overlap, since a Magnificent Bastard is quite good at rebounding from defeat.

EPIC!

Also, you would scan as None, smash. Having you scan as Manipulative Bastard would be too hindering .

[smashbro]

Not much, but we shot the shit.


Never tell your password to anyone.
Sunday, June 13, 2010
1:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I am pleased
1:48 AM - Weldar: Heh, I am too
1:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: oh god
1:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I come back
1:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: mafia seems to be going good... and the hack
1:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!:
1:49 AM - Weldar: Heh glad you like it
1:50 AM - Weldar: Like I said though right now I don't have any sprites for you guys
1:50 AM - Weldar: Currently the placeholder is a cool couple, so yeah one of you is now a girl
1:51 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: lol
1:51 AM - Weldar: Oh and by the way now that I think about this a bit it might be a good idea for you to just vote for Robin
1:52 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: aight
1:52 AM - Weldar: And yeah unless there's any big surprises we should pretty much have the game in the bag
1:53 AM - Weldar: Hopefully I can try and ensure 3 people die tonight plus the lynch
1:53 AM - Weldar: That leaves 5 people, as long as you aren't lynched that day we win
1:53 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Excellent
1:53 AM - Weldar: IF there's still only 2 death then you'll have to survive another night as well
1:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: darn
1:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: why 3 people though?
1:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but I'm guessing you can't tell me
1:55 AM - Weldar: Yeah not exactly
1:55 AM - Weldar: I will say this though, it involves a bomb
1:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ok
1:55 AM - Weldar: But yeah it may very well not work but even if it doesn't we're still in a very good position
1:56 AM - Weldar: Like I said barring any big surprises we've pretty much got this
1:56 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: This will be my third game surviving to the end if we win
1:56 AM - Weldar: And the amoutn of places for those suprises to be hinding is dwindling
1:56 AM - Weldar: Nice
1:56 AM - Weldar: I think it would be my 3rd as well actually
1:57 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: did you survive on the first game?
1:57 AM - Weldar: Yep
1:57 AM - Weldar: Thanks to Warchamp's great doctoring skills :B
1:57 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: that's right
1:58 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I wasn't sure if you got off'd last second though
1:58 AM - Weldar: NAh stayed until the end
1:58 AM - Weldar: Completely wrecking the mafia all the way through, poor mafia
1:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: like now? :B
1:59 AM - Weldar: Yeah
1:59 AM - Weldar: Unless I died really early on those guys didn't have much chance
1:59 AM - Weldar: And scanning as innocent + nightkill immunity = unlikely to die early one
2:00 AM - Weldar: Of course it was possible that the mafia could figure it out and kill me later in the game
2:01 AM - Weldar: If they were lucky my nightkill imuunity would have been deactivated by that point
2:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so it only lasted for a few nights?
2:02 AM - Weldar: Nope
2:02 AM - Weldar: Like I said it's tied to a condition
2:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ah k
2:02 AM - Weldar: It potentially could have been deactivated within the first couple of days but right now I've still got it
2:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: nice
2:03 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I almost want to say that you are the serial killer
2:03 AM - Weldar: *Bzzt* wrong answer
2:03 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause the "murdered"/non mafian deaths have been convenient ones
2:03 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but seems unfair for mafia
2:04 AM - Weldar: It would be pretty harsh on them
2:04 AM - Weldar: Hehehehe, I can't wait until I get to reveal my secrets
2:04 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yes
2:05 AM - Weldar: To the mafia: I never really was on your side
2:05 AM - Weldar: /spy
2:06 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ily
2:06 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but I'll rage quit if you still have to backstab me
2:07 AM - Weldar: That would be hilarious
2:07 AM - Weldar: But I totally don't for reals
2:07 AM - Weldar: My plans are absed around getting the numbers down to 4 and everything
2:08 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Excellent, Smithers
2:09 AM - Weldar: So yeah tomorrow vote for pretty much anyone
2:09 AM - Weldar: If a bandwagon forums jump on it as long as it's not on me or you
2:10 AM - Weldar: Though I suppose there could be a main preferred target depending on exactly how the night goes
2:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Fedaykin
2:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: should he be alive
2:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: idk
2:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: Relm would be hard to lynch
2:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: same with DRTJR
2:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: JGH27 we could lynch
2:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: easily
2:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: obvious bandwagoneer
2:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and he did not vote for avalanche
2:11 AM - Weldar: Oh don't worry if this plan works it doesn't matter who we chose
2:11 AM - Weldar: You me and the mafia should control the majority
2:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I really don't want to get over confident with this
2:11 AM - Weldar: Fair enough


(Anything after was stuff about pokemon)

[smashbro]

Never tell your password to anyone.
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
3:45 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so what's the plan?
3:45 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: we wait for people to vote hudson?
3:46 AM - Weldar: Yep we vote hudson today
3:46 AM - Weldar: We hope nothing unexpceted comes up tonight
3:46 AM - Weldar: And then we should win tomorrow
3:46 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: you think my chances of not getting murdered are good?
3:47 AM - Weldar: I think they're pretty good yeah
3:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause if I were the SK, I probably would have targeted either me or you by now
3:47 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so I think you're pulling strings I don't/can't know about
3:47 AM - Weldar: I;ve told you I have secrects I can't tell you
3:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: true
3:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I'll find out in a few rl days
3:48 AM - Weldar: We will
3:48 AM - Weldar: You can keep guessing until then
3:48 AM - Weldar: I won't be able to tell you if you're right though :B
3:48 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: someone else latched onto you maybe
3:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: also
3:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: i wanted to tell Surge everything that's been going on
3:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but I didn't
3:49 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: cause it's against the rules and i dunno if there are any roles still at play
3:50 AM - Weldar: At this point I find it unlikely the roles realted to the dead are still alive
3:50 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: samezies
3:50 AM - Weldar: But Q can't really remove the rule without confirming that
3:50 AM - Weldar: So it has to stand untiul endgame really
3:50 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and then again there's the infection thing we thought we got rid of
3:50 AM - Weldar: I wasn't too surprsed to see it
3:51 AM - Weldar: I told you Q mentioned a zombie role to me is passing once while we were discussing something mafia related
3:52 AM - Weldar: I'd run an idea I had for a role past him
3:53 AM - Weldar: The important part is that if someone nightkilled the role they would gain its powers and win codition while also keeping thier own
3:53 AM - Weldar: He said that part reminded him of them zombie, the gaining it's powers by killing ity
3:53 AM - Weldar: I think the infection may spread through kills somehow
3:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so that's maybe how Raya got TheTJ?
3:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: oh
3:54 AM - Weldar: Raya supposedly survived an attack from DRTJR
3:54 AM - Weldar: And TJ survived a mafia nightkill once
3:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: oooh
3:54 AM - Weldar: DRTJR died last night......
3:54 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: was he a contact?
3:54 AM - Weldar: So perhaps that's why we saw it turn up in the plot again
3:55 AM - Weldar: What?
3:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: nevermind
3:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: it showed up in the plot the night before though
3:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I think
3:55 AM - Weldar: Hmmmm
3:55 AM - Weldar: Robin was the one who failed to kill the TJ
3:55 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: "The infection writhed"
3:56 AM - Weldar: Yeah I'm not sure really
3:56 AM - Weldar: I have no idea what to make of this infection
3:56 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I'm up for just going witht the plan of acting as normal
3:57 AM - Weldar: That's the only apporach I can see
3:58 AM - Weldar: I'll try to avoid personally killing anyone I suspect is infected just in case I guess
3:58 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: so if they're infected you cant kill them?
3:58 AM - Weldar: I have no idea really
3:58 AM - Weldar: Killing TJ worked the second time
3:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: doesnt seem right if this infectionn was spreading and multiple people had this condition of night kill immunity
3:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: ah k
3:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: just...
3:59 AM - Weldar: But the thing is we didn't target TJ that night.......
3:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: lynch Hudson, kill people over night
3:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and we take the game tomorrow
3:59 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: game wise, tomorrow
3:59 AM - Weldar: Pretty much
4:00 AM - Weldar: Like I said that's the only real approach I can see
4:00 AM - Weldar: Oh and one thing smashbro....
4:00 AM - Weldar: You had better not have to backstab me
4:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I dont
4:00 AM - Weldar: :B\
4:00 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: :B
4:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I pick a puppet to work for me and join my side
4:01 AM - Weldar: Just saying, cuase you've brought it up so much
4:01 AM - Weldar: And after all this work man that would suck
4:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: even if you die you still win if I'm alive at the end
4:01 AM - Weldar: You picked a damn fine puppet
4:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: seriously
4:01 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: you doing a lot of work that even I cant know about
4:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: makes this job easier
4:02 AM - Weldar: See the thing is my win condtion was already to be the last man standing
4:02 AM - Weldar: My role and position is made for the job
4:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: nice
4:02 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: we are leet team :B
4:02 AM - Weldar: And yeah despite you supposedly being the one who pulls the strings
4:02 AM - Weldar: I'm the one who moves all the pieces
4:03 AM - Weldar: But that's just becuase I'm one who's allowed to look at the board
4:03 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: I'll just sit in my big boss chair petting my cat
4:03 AM - Weldar: Meanwhile I sit in my boss of the mafia chair doing the same
4:04 AM - Weldar: Though I have gotten my hands dirty with a few kills now and there
4:05 AM - Weldar: I love how Quaetam's writing them. Raya, I mean mysterious figure is such a badass
4:05 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: nice
4:07 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: even if there is only one kill over night, we still got it with 4 of us left
4:07 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: if voting is a tie, we kill again
4:07 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and lynch the remainder
4:07 AM - Weldar: We win once there's 4 anyway
4:08 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: oh yeah
4:08 AM - Weldar: I suppose the if there's some other 3rd parties who could still win it might continue
4:08 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: maybe there's a survivor still alive
4:08 AM - Weldar: That would be nice for them
4:08 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and vevn so, wonder if they would win with us
4:09 AM - Weldar: But smashbro you are the survivor
4:09 AM - Weldar: I imagine they would
4:09 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: tee hee
4:09 AM - Weldar: Thier win condtion doesn't directly clash with ours
4:09 AM - Weldar: Well actually I suppose it does
4:09 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: mine is to be last alive with a puppet
4:10 AM - Weldar: Yeah it only ends at 4 since there's no way to stop everyone else from dying
4:10 AM - Weldar: Espcially with a mafian puppet
4:10 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yep
4:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: and is it just me or does there seem like there are a lot of alignments?
4:11 AM - Weldar: There really are
4:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: townie, mafia, zombie, avalanchian, none
4:11 AM - Weldar: Avalanchian may be masons
4:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: makes me wonder just how many were actual townies
4:11 AM - Weldar: Who are technically just fancier townies
4:11 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: maybe
4:12 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: or a second cult
4:12 AM - Weldar: Yeah I mean how many 3rd parties have we seen
4:12 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: but probably masons
4:12 AM - Weldar: Relm, Ansem, Me, You, Robin
4:12 AM - Weldar: +X Mafians
4:12 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: sounds about right
4:12 AM - Weldar: + X Zombies
4:12 AM - Weldar: Not a lot of number left for the town
4:13 AM - Weldar: And a lot of the good players caught up in these non town roles as well
4:13 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: my game had 5 non affiliated
4:13 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: counting Ansem the yoshi
4:14 AM - Weldar: That was a cool role
4:14 AM - Weldar: 3rd parties are a lot of fun be they simple of complex
4:14 AM - {PM} Don't smash me, bro!: yes